Comments on: I Now Have 16 Accounts at ONE Place. Is that bad? ;) https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/ Money | Minimalism | Mohawks Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:24:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: J. Money https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/#comment-258709 Fri, 06 Oct 2017 19:08:58 +0000 https://staging.eliteedgemoney.com/?p=11663#comment-258709 In reply to Debbie.

Nice!!!

And my same thoughts as well :) I used to have all my investments w/ USAA too but finally moved them over to Vanguard just cuz you couldn’t beat the costs. But other than that and my wife’s TSP (love it!), all our accounts are still with USAA as well. Even 6 years later from first publishing this article!

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By: Debbie https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/#comment-258678 Fri, 06 Oct 2017 10:04:45 +0000 https://staging.eliteedgemoney.com/?p=11663#comment-258678 I, too, am a USAA super fan. I’ve been with them for 33 years and have all of my insurance needs with them. They have my auto, house and umbrella policies. They also have my checking account even though I could get a better rate elsewhere. My emergency fund is at an Internet back due to the huge difference in the savings rate. With 3 months and growing to 6 months of expenses that will be a lot of money just sitting in a savings account so no brainer to pick 1.2% versus USAA 0.15%. My investments are with Vanguard can’t beat their low expense fees unless you have TSP account for retirement which is where I’m banking 13% every paycheck.

Bottom line is USAA is an amazingly good company. Wish their banking rates were better and my emergency savings and mortgage would also be with them

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By: J. Money https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/#comment-231632 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:47:35 +0000 https://staging.eliteedgemoney.com/?p=11663#comment-231632 In reply to Christopher Roe.

Oh, nice – didn’t know that!

Must be why Warren Buffett owns like 500 Million shares of them through his fund :)

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By: Christopher Roe https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/#comment-231585 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:10:57 +0000 https://staging.eliteedgemoney.com/?p=11663#comment-231585 I believe Wells Fargo can also provide all of the services that USAA does. As far as I know, USAA for military, and Wells Fargo for civilians are the only 2 to offer such a wide variety of services.

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By: J. Money https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/#comment-60161 Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:29:40 +0000 https://staging.eliteedgemoney.com/?p=11663#comment-60161 @jmsbravo – I know, right? I use my iPhone to deposit checks every week – I love it! Though I do wish there was a physical bank in town as well – I like seeing people face to face when I choose to :)
@PoorManIAm – Wowwww, you def. beat me in USAA membership years! Haha… that’s dope man, I appreciate you stopping by and sharing with us :) Even though I’m a bit late on commenting back here (sorry). One of my fave parts about blogging is the feedback from the readers here, so THANK YOU for taking the time and sharing the opposite sides to it all – it really helps. And you’re right, I def. think the investment side is lacking as far as website flexibility, but since I don’t care as much about that stuff, luckily it works out ;) At least for now… I may switch to Vanguard or Fidelity all depending down the road.

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By: PoorManIAm https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/#comment-59445 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:51:21 +0000 https://staging.eliteedgemoney.com/?p=11663#comment-59445 Sean

After the Military I worked Cvil Svcfor about 10 years and when they started TSP I joined. Best deal ever I believe. Even proportinately better than military retirement pension. At age 70 1/2 I started IRA MRD (Minimum Required Distrib) from TSP. I have been brawing the distrbution for several years now and the my TSP balance is double what it was when I began drawing. Unbeliveble!! It is extremely well managed is one of the reasons I would stay with it.

Let me say that I believe TSP is a great deal and I would never take the money out for any reason. With good luck and long life you can draw MRD all your life and contrary ro belief you can still have money in the account that you can pass on to your wife or children tax free regardless of actuarians. I have brokerages, IRA’s (Me and spouse) and other investments but I consider TSP The best deal of all. The Treasuries are also special edition with garanteed return. Can’t get that from Fidelity or USAA!!

But the feature I like best is the ease of managing the account. As you know the money is in five sub accounts: Garanteed treasuries, fixed income, S&P 500 type fund , small stock index, and overseas index funds.

At first indication of downturn in stock markets I move all money into bonds. I try to err on the side of caution and safety and not worry if I miss some upside. When markets and economy start to pick up again I move it back into stock funds. the tranfear couldn’t be easier and can be done on line in one minute or two after log in. on 2 August I did just that and that alone saved me $ 6,000 to $ 7,000 in two days during “BlacK Thursday” and today “Wild Friday.” I do the same with Fidelity Standard IRA but it is little more complicated to do.

There is a lot more of this info on line at http://www.tsp.gov
You might want to check that out if youhaven’t yet.

My advise: would never convert the TSP it’s best deal in town even if you have to pay taxes when you withdraw.

Best wishes. and good luck! DV

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By: PoorManIAm https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/#comment-59417 Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:01:39 +0000 https://staging.eliteedgemoney.com/?p=11663#comment-59417 16 Accounts in USAA. Sounds OK but:

Yea. Have been with USAA for ages. Years after, I starded to diversify a bit. Put mine and spouses IRA with Fidelity. Bought some Vanguard funds years ago (mid 80’s) . The 4 Vaguard funds I bought made me tons. I still hold them. They have gone down but always recovered nicely plus all the reinvested dividents over time which are the real money makers. Also good if you have long time frame. Had 10 good stocks in USAA like Leeman Brothers, Gen Electric, Dow, etc-phew!! In 07-08 lost my butt and never recovered to today.

OK enouph of that. Just to make a point (Not USAA’s Fault for losses) for some diversity. Consider that back when it was difficuld to buy Vanguard or other funds from a Fidelity or USAA account and if you did it cost arm and a leg. Now it’s different, you can buy many funds from any fund Families like American Century, Vangard and other brokerages and most you can buy without a fee load.

About USAA Brokerage: I just sent them an email two days ago,(I do periodically) telling them to come out of the Jeurassic (sp) age into the 21st Century.

The investment site is just plain bad. It lacks full flexibility of investing accross markets and their tracking tools are just auful. By comparison I trade mostly trough Fidelity and use their streaming Fidelity Trader Pro platform to do instantaneous trades. Helped me last couple days sell some stocks and funds and shift investments around – like to bond funds. Of course to qualify for use of Trader Pro you have to have certein amounts in Fedelity and do a certain number of trades per rolling 12 months period. But even their regular trading and research tools are far superior to those of USAA.

Just wanted to give the other side of the story about USAA Investments and about the lack of flexibility. Not a dad Idea to consolidate accounts but not at expense of flexibility and deversity.

Currently I am with Fidelity (main Broker) Vanguard and USAA. Vanguard because it has the best funds research and USAA because I have USAA banking abd othe great services such as auto and home insurance etc. for which USAA if famous. But not as famous as it was 20 0r 30 years ago (reduced benefits and increased prices, less protection for members higher fees and penalties on credit cards, etc.) and has become very beaurecratic as it has gotten bigger to the point where in some areas it is now undistinquishable from regular for profit “civilian” firms.

Believe me, with over 60 years membership in USAA I have watched with anxiety and regret that USAA has become what it has become. But having said all this it is still a great organization for us military active duty or retired like myself.

Hope this has been helpfull to you and all USAA mambers that read this. My purpose is not to bash USAA but to tell you how I see it today and through time and some advantages of accounts outside USAA.

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By: jmsbravo https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/#comment-59307 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:28:55 +0000 https://staging.eliteedgemoney.com/?p=11663#comment-59307 The other day it took me a total 2 minutes to deposit my paycheck with my iPhone on USAA mobile…. Just to think a couple years ago it would have taken me 10 minutes to get to a bank (each way… during business hours mind you) then wait in line… then fight traffic back. So, yeah, I’ll stick to USAA for banking since i don’t see the need of talking to someone face to face ever again… Regarding insurance, i found out that the more products you have with USAA the better your insurance rates are!!! Go figure.. so i have Auto/Propery/Life with them! Oh and by the way, their reps are always nice when you call… truly top notch!

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By: J. Money https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/#comment-57735 Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:54:45 +0000 https://staging.eliteedgemoney.com/?p=11663#comment-57735 Haha, I hear that. That is pretty crazy that Allstate is so much cheaper, esp in THAT department – the bread and butter of USAA! But yeah, I had my accounts scattered like that too a few years ago. I just got tired of keeping track with it all and wanted one main place I felt safe and secure with. So I guess I pay a little for convenience ;)

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By: Sean https://eliteedgemoney.com/i-now-have-16-accounts-at-one-place-is-that-bad/#comment-57725 Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:36:27 +0000 https://staging.eliteedgemoney.com/?p=11663#comment-57725 I love USAA. I’ve been with them for about 5 years now and have no plan of going elsewhere. I don’t do everything with them though.

My retirement is through TSP because the TSP has been great to me. When I get out of the USAF if I don’t go to another gov job I’ll probably transfer it to a USAA Roth IRA.

My auto/renters insurance is through Allstate because they are wayyyyyy cheaper than USAA for some reason.

Savings through Ally because its money market savings account is almost a full percentage point above USAA.

Stocks through sharebuilder because of their rates and automatic investments.

I still keep all my checking and loans through USAA though. I have several checking accounts that automatically move money around on pay day. Then all my bills get automatically paid. This really helps when I deploy without warning… which happens… a lot. If USAA would step it up a bit in those other categories I would have no reason to go elsewhere.

-Sean

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